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Way of the Fist Battle Royale
Topic Started: Apr 2 2016, 03:38 PM (790 Views)
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Paul's Ursaring, Tai Lung, Kai, Oogway, Rick Taylor, and Zell all get transported to an arena. It is announced that the winner between all of them will receive delicious food and be the first to head back home. Any person killed will be revived and sent back from where they came from. To make things interesting their speed will be equalized with one another. The goal of this is to either incapacitate or kill (if necessary) your opponents. Which of these hand to hand fighters will come out on top?

Bonus: All of the warriors are revived and healed to their prime shape. Zell is granted Noctis' short distance teleportation. The battle starts again.

Bonus Bonus: Since the crowd is so enthralled with the sheer masculine power being brought forth in this royale, the holders bring in the Street Sharks to fight this five team. Zell still has his short distance teleportation and the others are in their prime shape.
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Well, let's look at the positives of each one.

Ursaring is super badass and beast...but has no other claim to fame really. As powerful as he is, he's very much a one trick pony of a brutish tank who gets pissed off when under a status effect.
Tai Lung is very skilled with his nerve strike and has an affinity for fire
Kai is close to immortal due to being a Spirit Warrior, he easily has the range advantage on all of them except Oogway, and his chi drain is a one hit kill
Oogway is the most skilled one here and has the best kind of utility(shields and chi blasts)
Rick Taylor's got his nifty regeneration
Zell has some fire affinity as well

Ursaring goes down first unless he's got Guts activated by either Tai Lung or Zell, in which case he's got enough power to possibly wound either of them quite badly(though he can't beat them). Next to go down is Zell, simply due to lacking in strength and unlike Tai Lung, lacking nerve strikes. Tai Lung is next, he's gotten owned by Oogway, Kai beat him in canon, and Rick Taylor's regeneration lets him hang in the game enough to eventually kill the snow leopard. When it comes to Kai, Oogway, and Rick, Rick is going to get out maneuvered. Oogway and Kai are far too agile, even with speed equalized for him(just see Kai's little Kratos reenactment). And then we go down to Oogway and Kai, and we already saw how that went down in the movie. Therefore, the winner of the(probably with a few extra jombies) is Kai, the Jade Slayer
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Bonus Round results in the Sharks being overpowered. Assuming there's a bit of team coordination, Zell can burn Ursaring at the start of the fight so he's all roided out. Granted, Ursaring still won't win, but he can keep a Shark busy if he has to and serve as interference. Kai, Oogway, and Tai Lung would all win their 1v1 fights, Rick Taylor could probably win his as well, and both Zell and Ursaring can help out where needed
Edited by lazerbem, Apr 2 2016, 03:52 PM.
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I see Kai winning the first round. He also wins the second round, nothing has really changed there.

Rick Taylor is the only one who can hang around Kai when it comes to strength, but his blades and chi draining ability are too much for Rick. I dunno how Kai would react to Rick's chi, as he is 90% dark magic, and I'm not sure if Kai can drain the power of the Terror Mask. Then there's Oogway who could just finish off Rick, or take on Kai, and maybe lose, since both have equal speed and stuff.

As for the Street Sharks, Oogway and Kai can probably deal with them without having a hard time. Add in the rest and they're gonna get destroyed.
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Alrighty, in that case. I guess this the time for some boosting of the weaker ones.

Zell and Paul's Ursaring gain the Berzerk Status (50% boost to physical damage dished out, which would make Zell 15+ tonner) as well as Protect and Shell (halves the damage done by physical attacks, energy attacks, and magic attacks).

Does this change the way this goes down?

If not, then what if this 6-team all goes up against Senator Armstrong at once? Can they wear him down?
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With Berzerk, Ursaring is weaker than when he's got Guts, actually. That being said, if he's Gutsed and Berzerk, he's going to be able to beat Tai Lung and he can maybe land a lucky slash or two on the upper tiers before being freakin' destroyed. Zell I don't think would do quite as well. Tai Lung's fighting style is weak against Ursaring's(Ursaring's is nearly the same as Po's), but Zell's doesn't seem to be as tanky, so it's likely that Tai Lung can out maneuver him. Also, as before, Ursaring can savagely wound Zell once he's got Guts up, but I'm not sure if it's enough to kill him. If Ursaring uses Bulk Up though, then I think he can beat Zell and Tai Lung here.

Beyond that though, it doesn't change much.

As for all of them vs Armstrong, Ursaring and Zell are fodder and getting tossed aside. Tai Lung won't do much better either. So this comes down to Oogway, Kai, and Rick Taylor. I think the team can win if they take advantage of Oogway and Kai's ranged attacks. If they try to brawl him down, it could end very badly though since Armstrong lacks pressure points or organs.
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So you've turned Zell into a 15-tonner? That's cute.

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Rick could also help by using Splatter Siphon. Armstrong is going to get creamed fast if Rick starts to steal his blood to make himself stronger.
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Apr 2 2016, 04:36 PM
@Ultimecia

So you've turned Zell into a 15-tonner? That's cute.

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Rick could also help by using Splatter Siphon. Armstrong is going to get creamed fast if Rick starts to steal his blood to make himself stronger.
Armstrong has no blood to steal. Blood was added in the American version, in the Japanese version, he just spews white fluid that's the artificial stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc0c8KE9wE4

Skip to his death scene, you'll see that it's just white artificial stuff
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In light of a recent discovery, I do have a trump card that I just remembered Zell has due to his limit break... Zell lifts a tank, or rather, something most likely heavier than a tank.

BEHOLD and FEAST your mortal eyes upon this beautiful war clank! The blue beauty, the master of disaster, the son of a b*** that prevents you from escaping in a timely fashion (As in you don't escape at all and have to hide in it in order to survive the missile base self destructing) from the Galbadian missile base. The BGH251F2!

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Guess what Zell can lift in his limit break? Yes, this bad boy, which is supposed to be FF8's version of a tank. An even better tank actually. Considering it's far more durable than the X-ATM092 (Which was put down and blew up after roughly 15-20 seconds of concentrated future .50 cal fire).

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That's a roughly 62 ton feat then. Not sure if it means anything against Kai there though, that's some ridiculous strength there.
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Kai's feats are still way better
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You could make a case for that enormous stone block to be weighing a thousand tons+ tbh
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Apr 2 2016, 05:03 PM
Kai's feats are still way better
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You could make a case for that enormous stone block to be weighing hundreds of tons, tbh.
TFW your Trump card counter gets countered hard.

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Edit: So does Zell get any further before he gets slaughtered by Kai? xD

Editedit: Just realized that Rick Taylor's 9999 corpses feat is roughly 621 tons, aka, Zell has only a 1/10th of Rick Taylor's strength...
Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Apr 2 2016, 05:26 PM.
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Yeah, Tinny.

Your 62 tons speculations are really cute compared to what Rick and Kai can do :p
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Apr 2 2016, 05:33 PM
Yeah, Tinny.

Your 62 tons speculations are really cute compared to what Rick and Kai can do :p
Meh, it's not really speculation, it's more or less the bare minimum. The war clank can withstand a blast (and still be functional) that levels roughly a city block. The material needed for that is at the VERY least what we have today, and considering that the war clank is larger than tanks nowadays it's very likely it weighs a lot more.

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If anything I'm lowballing the feat. That clank is likely pushing 100 tons.
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It doesn't look that large

Furthermore, size doesn't always indicate weight with tanks. For example, this is the Maus
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They don't look very different, do they? And yet, one of them weighs 68 tons while the other weighs 188 tons. We have no clue what the innards of the clank are like or if the metal they're using is more light weight

Stone blocks are deceptive too. Even a 64 cubic foot block of granite weighs around 5 tons, and that's smaller than a person is in terms of space taken up.
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It doesn't look that large

Furthermore, size doesn't always indicate weight with tanks. For example, this is the Maus
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This is the Tiger
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They don't look very different, do they? And yet, one of them weighs 68 tons while the other weighs 188 tons. We have no clue what the innards of the clank are like or if the metal they're using is more light weight

In any case, Kai's stone block is far larger still.
It's large enough inside that a 4 person crew runs it with a captain. It's roughly the same size if not a little larger than most modern tanks today. In order to survive a blast like it did I would imagine it's at the very least using depleted uranium combos like the Abrams does nowadays. Of course, it doesn't help that the clank can actually leap a few dozen feet in the air. The ground shakes when it does that though.

My argument was never really with Kai tho, I was just trying to say that that war clank isn't surviving a city block level blast without having the same material we have nowadays if not stronger. Just using modern day equivalents of tanks for comparison is all. I used a fairly light tank for comparison.
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The fact that it can jump actually makes it more likely its lighter, what kind of engineer would put unnecessary strain on the hydraulics?
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